With the modern day BCS system it has gotten really hard for Non-AQ's to win the Heisman. My question is, with Keenum (Houston) getting an astounding 6th year of eligibility and Kellen Moore (Boise State) returning for a senior season after going to the Heisman ceremony as a hopeful is this the year that a Non-AQ wins it?
Luck from Stanford won't win it unless they go to the BCS championship game which is highly unlikely.
Pryor from Ohio State is suspended for 5 games next year so saying he is the mvp on his team is a stretch let alone the nation if he misses almost half the regular season.
Robinson from Michigan may be deserving but we all know the voters aren't taking a player from a team that does not win its conference let alone its division.
Long story short is that Keenum has been on every credible Heisman watch list for the last couple years (but injury's wrecked his seasons) and Moore has been statistically two years straight the best player in america (or at least on a very short list). Essentially if you took the Heisman watch lists or Heisman races from the last two years (combined... not including the one year wonders) and removed graduated or players going pro, your essentially left with those two and the players I have already logically discredited.
P.S. I realize Keenum is a system QB but his name has been bounced around forever.
P.P.S. (Yes I just post scripted a post script) I realize Moore gets biased against him for being on a Non-AQ and his teams weaker schedules BUT after being a top 3 finalist (Heisman) and the Football Writers Association of America QB 1st team all american of the year and posting the same godly numbers against top 25 teams as the lower tier teams (consistent at all levels) and his team having a tougher schedule this year and him NOT being a system QB (Boise State runs multiple offensive formations and is actually supposed to be run heavy this year with the loss of its two top WR's) can he be blocked again?|||I'm not sure. I don't think Moore will win it, although he may be deserving. Depends how Keenum recovers from his injury. I don't see any other non-AQ candidates besides those two.|||No. Luck of Stanford will win it. Trent Richardson of Alabama will be up there with him. RT|||Why won't Luck win it? I don't see your logic in having to go to the Championship game and winning the Heisman. It's likely, but no guarantee every year. A non-AQ team would have to make it into the championship first by the way if a champion contender does in fact win the trophy. The Heisman has become meaningless though because defensive players can't win it, unless they return kicks. Offensive lineman also get shafted. Basically the Heisman is a sham because it's a numbers game plus a tiny bit of analysis.|||The problem is Keenum plays at Houston. He's not going to get the press playing there. Moore could be deserving, but I have my doubts about him actually winning. LaMichael James or Andrew Luck seem like the most realistic possibilities at this point. I think that a sleeper will be Monte Ball from Wisconsin assuming he actually gets a large enough share of the carries now that John Clay is gone.|||I doubt it. First of all, you list three other guys you view as competition for Keenum and Moore and dismiss them, and then act as if there is nobody else. Two out of three of the guys are not even serious candidates, and partially for the reasons you gave. Luck is the only guy you list who really does have a realistic shot of being a serious Heisman candidate, and the reason he won't win it is not because they won't play for the title but because Stanford's not going to be anywhere near as good as a lot of people project them to be with Harbaugh gone, losing, like, 3 O-linemen, etc. Um, I do think Tebow won the Heisman without Florida winning the SEC or their division...it happens, but a non-SEC team that loses 4-5 games is not going to have a Heisman winner, and THAT'S what Denard's problem will be.
The links below list a lot of the guys who will be in the discussion aside from Keenum, and I do think the early favorites will be guys like LaMichael James, Luck, Justin Blackmon, Marcus Lattimore, Kellen Moore, maybe Taylor Martinez, maybe Trent Richardson. And there lately always seems to be a player or 3 who come out of nowhere, like Newton did. I do think Boise State's schedule will continue to harm Moore, and I know you don't like "SoS" arguments but the "fact" is that hurts Moore more than playing for a non-AQ team does and I'm not saying this as a personal opinion as to why I think he shouldn't win--I'd be fine with him winning. But if Boise State were non-AQ but had a schedule that was, say, TCU, Fresno State, Nevada, San Diego State, a GOOD Georgia, a GOOD Nebraska and a GOOD Virginia Tech and they won all those games...he'd have a far better shot. I raise SoS because the teams Boise State plays keeps people who vote on the Heisman from watching most of Boise State's games, as does some of their games being late since they're a western team. People would stay up and watch if they were playing ranked TCU/Georgia/Nebraska/VT and those are 4 quality wins. They have not wanted to see them blow out Idaho, Hawai'i, Toledo, etc.
Same for Houston in the C-USA, though I think the C-USA has several ignored gems as far as teams go (I find Tulsa, ECU and Southern Miss to be quality teams, certainly UCF is getting up there now and SMU is coming back...makes them have more depth than the MWC, to me), but most people don't agree with me.|||Kellen Moore?
LMAO!
LOL! Nebraska insulted Boise St.? Boise St. wanted two home and one away with Nebraska OR one away at a Nebraska neutral site PLUS $1,000,000. I'd say Boise St.'s doing the insulting.
In any case, going to the NC means nothing. All votes must be cast by 12:00 Noon EST on the first Saturday in December. The conference championships are played that afternoon, after the voting's over. Voters don't know who's going to the NC game. LMAO!
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